Comments on: Flight Shaming: Is Flying Bad for the Environment? https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/ Travel Better, Cheaper, Longer Wed, 16 Apr 2025 23:34:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Jamie https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1587390 Wed, 30 Sep 2020 00:33:12 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1587390 A well researched and written article. Agree with much of it. I think we need to be careful with that stat that 2.5% of carbon emissions are from flights. It is true, but after we factor in the things Prof Oppenheimer mentioned to Matt, i.e. flights causing global warming from things other than CO2, it is more like 5% of climate change and growing. Source: https://www.sailtothecop.com/blog/aviation-more-than-10-of-emissions However, the reason flights are only 5% is because most people don´t fly, or only short haul. If you take one long haul flights per year, it will typically be 20%-50% of your emissions. Reducing those flights will perhaps be the most important thing you can do to reduce your emissions.

The average person on Earth today has a carbon footprint of about 7 tonnes of CO2e. To avoid catastrophic climate change, i.e. to have a reasonable chance of not going beyond 2C above pre-industrial levels, those numbers need to be down to perhaps 4-5t CO2e without 10 years and perhaps 2-3t CO2e within 20 years.

Most return long haul flights are between 1t and 4t CO2e. When we allow for the fact that each person inevitably has some other emissions as well as their flights, it is therefore basic maths that in years when I took long haul flights, I was not living a life consistent with 2C, and was taking more than my fair share of the world´s carbon budget regardless of what else I did to cut my carbon footprint. We can´t be allowed to let fear or shaming stop us from confronting cold hard facts.

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By: Hannah https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1583125 Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:17:43 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1583125 Thank you for sharing all of your research with the world! I also appreciate the additional comments and recommendations to pick up trash, volunteer, etc.
I too share your passion for travel — and saving the world, which seems to be a contradiction given the pollution of travel.

I will share, that while I already do all of the shared tips for cutting carbon footprint above and abroad, I also do think “flight shaming” has been beneficial in some ways.

With the advent of millions of travel IG accounts, it seems like everyone is a professional traveler these days. And if you aren’t a professional, the travel inspo has certainly made international jet setting seemingly more popular.

So though I don’t think we should be shamed for traveling, I do appreciate that “flight shaming” might give someone p a u s e to consider the repercussions of clicking purchase of that flight.

Like mentioned in an above comment, “we need everyone imperfectly trying to reduce their footprint just a little”.

If we all bought 1 less flight a year, wouldn’t that eventually lead to an airline flying the route for example from Mexico City to NYC one less time per day? One less flight flown on each route will eventually decrease the emissions by plane flights dramatically.

After all we do vote by our pocketbook. Airlines will eventually listen and fly less flights and use more Dreamliners with cleaner emissions based on demand.

So yes, Shaming someone is never right. Showing them to be conscientious of their decisions is.

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By: Viajes Elan https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1579948 Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:42:31 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1579948 Hello,
Thanks for the information, one of the things we do in all our trips, staycations or excursions, to cushion the impact of our visit is to collect the garbage that others have left and clean the destination visited. You’d be surprised at how much can be collected.

Thanks for sharing.

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By: Richard https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1496844 Mon, 16 Mar 2020 00:21:42 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1496844 Nice work. I try to stay in one country for three months now to cut down on not only emissions, but cost too.

Agreed that it doesn’t do any good to shame others or feel guilty about flying. We can just try to do better.

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By: KC https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1475911 Sun, 09 Feb 2020 16:18:40 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1475911 I know this was not the focus of the article but it’s important to remember that flying commercial aviation (on a mile to mile basis) is safer than driving. The human costs of injury and death in promoting driving over flying should play into any calculation.

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By: Dorene Wharton https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1469441 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:18:51 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1469441 Great post, and thorough research – and I agree its confusing and complicated. I’d like to add that biofuels are hitting the market now, although they can only help short haul flights (Jet blue just announced their move to them). Hopefully this becomes widespread- and we can vote for them in who we buy flights from. The one area I’ve seen at the top of the list is refrigeration/AC/heating – as the #1 biggest opportunity and today we don’t have a good solution to manage it, although NYC is imposing regulation and financing for 1million buildings to update their energy. Let’s hope this too becomes wide spread. Also lets vote for companies that are investing not just in carbon reduction but carbon capture – because we all know the speed and pace the world is changing isn’t enough.

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By: Kathy https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1469372 Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:08:50 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1469372 We live in New Zealand. Our unique problem is lack of any other countries under 2000km away. Our economy depends on tourism and our lifestyle encourages young people to get “overseas experience” to bring back into our economy. We also love to travel and most New Zealanders do travel, often to Australia. Most of us are also immigrants with families all over the world. I have travelled extensively and still want to do so at least once a year. But even I am feeling irresponsible for doing so. We are doing a trip in three weeks which may well be our last long-distance one. I can’t let other countries suffer the results of my desire to enjoy myself.

However in our defence- most New Zealanders go overseas for a long time. When you go you go for a few years or months because it is so costly compared to our low wage economy. When we get to another continent we happily use trains because we are so amazed how fast, comfortable and efficient they are. They are also very cheap in some places. I personally enjoy looking out the window and seeing daily life. Because of the cost we tend to space our trips out and more often go to countries closeby (relatively). We are also trying to plant a billion trees to do our bit. We don’t need to make many changes to our daily life because we’ve always been pretty green about most things. Our power production is also pretty reasonable being mostly based on water, hydrothermal power and wind.

Despite this, I still feel we need to start thinking hard about the choices we are making when we travel.

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By: Ali https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1469058 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:50:22 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1469058 Unfortunately, the government did not take enough care in the past years. They went for the easy solution and didn’t invest in more sustainable transportation like fast trains.

We should ask them to take action on that, we can do that with being active in our local and national politics.

And of course, these are side work for all you and others mentioned.

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By: Denise & Ryne https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1467981 Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:26:05 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1467981 Great article! The best things everyone can do right now is to reduce meat consumption and buy as little plastic as possible. But just like you said, you can’t make other people feel bad or shame them for how they’re living.

How do you guys reduce your carbon footprint? 🙂

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By: Tom https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/flight-shaming-flying-environment/#comment-1467568 Fri, 24 Jan 2020 10:49:15 +0000 https://www.nomadicmatt.com/?p=193419#comment-1467568 In reply to Ben.

One concern I’d have with the move to new more efficient planes cars etc. (electric/hybrid etc.) Is the emissions from production. Often it would take years and years for the carbon savings due to efficiency to pay back the initial debt from manufacture.

It’s a balancing act of getting the most out of each vehicle to diminish production emissions/distance travelled, Vs actual running efficiency.

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